M: Hello Pope.
Urban: Hello Mr. Powers
Me: Why did you decided to send the Crusades.
Urban: I wanted control of the Holy Land, ofcourse, wouldn't you if you were as big of a christian as I am?
M: I guess you're right, aren't you disappointed that your crusaders didn't get results?
U: Oh, ofcourse not, even though they didn't get me what I wanted, they did bring back something that would change the world.
M: And what would that be?
U: Knowledge. They brought back knowledge beyond your belief. If they hadn't done that, Europe would've stayed in the Dark Ages because of lack of knowledge. So to answer your question, no I am not disappointed.
M: Wow, you are right, that would've been bad if they had come back literally empty handed with nothing to tell of. But you must be sad they didn't capture the Holy Land for good.
U: Well, I guess, even though we did take it for a small amount of time, I did wish we took it for good. If we had, Jerusalem would be a 100% christian, wouldn't that be miraculous?
M: Sure, thanks for answering my questions.
U: Anytime.
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